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Speaker 1
So pile says serious question. Why did God create the devil when he should have known what he was going to do? Why does he allow his interference on Earth when we can do bad things all by ourselves? Why over complicate the situation? Why stack the deck in this way against maximizing the souls that God could save from eternal damnation? Can I just say how appreciative I am about asking this question, Kyle? Because I’ve had the same question many times in my life, actually, I think was one of the people who helped me get clarity on it. I’m grateful to hear that.
Speaker 2
I don’t remember giving you clarity.
Speaker 1
So thank God. I’m pretty sure we talked about this at one point many years ago.
Speaker 2
You probably did, kyle, this is a really good question. I appreciate it and I think it’s good to come to God and come to the Bible with questions because that’s how we really learn and that’s how we grow in our relationship with God and get to know Him in a personal way. And when it comes to the Devil, it is a complicated thing because it’s like, God, why didn’t you just destroy Him? Or why did you make them in the first place? It doesn’t make sense. And that’s definitely something that I think we all grapple with because we’re all suffering because of this one terrible being influencing our Earth and making our lives even worse than they need, more than they need to be, it seems. And so it’s kind of like, God, why even make Him, you know, what was going to happen if you’re God, you know everything? So I totally get where you’re coming from and I do want to share with you a few things that kind of make it a little more clear as to like, oh, okay, so God is not necessarily to blame or God.
Speaker 2
Is not wrong in the way he operates. God is perfect. His ways are perfect. And so even though it might not be the way we want it to be in the big picture, it’s the right thing to do. And I think that that’s kind of where we kind of have to take a step back and look at the grand picture of everything and understanding why is there a double in the first place and why are things playing out the way that they are? So going back to, first of all, who is the devil? What is he? Why was he made did God make a devil? No. So I want to make sure that that’s first of all, very clear. God didn’t make an evil, demonic, yucky bad thing that was only out to get you. God didn’t make that. That’s not what God does. He doesn’t make evil in that way, but he does create. Beings have the ability to choose. And that’s kind of where the origin of the devil is in that he was an angel. He was a glorious angel. You can read about this a little bit more clearly on Bible Ask.org. We have a lot of questions and a very popular one we get it was Satan never a glorious angel?
Speaker 2
The answer is yes. And you see this in the book of Ezekiel chapter 28. This chapter is about a prophecy against the King of Tyre. It starts out and then it kind of moves into kind of paralleling the King of Tyre to basically the attributes of the devil and how the devil originated and enacted. So if you look up at Ezekiel chapter 28, in starting verse twelve, it says son of man, take up a lamentation upon the King of Tyres and say to him thus saith the Lord God, thou seal UST up the sun full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. So this being was first of all perfect in beauty. And it says thou hast been an Eden. Obviously, the King of Tire was not an Eden anyway. Admin were kicked out of Eden a long time ago. So this cannot be the literal King of Tyre. It’s likening the King of Tyre to the devil and how the devil fell. It says Thou hast been eaten the garden of God, every precious stone was thy covering the sardis tobaz diamond barrel onyx jasper, sapphire, emerald, carbuncle and gold. The workmanships of thy tabrites, which is like the cords, like his voice basically and of thy pipes was prepared indeed the day thou wast created.
Speaker 2
I believe that before he was the devil which is called he was previously called Lucifer. He was able to sing and had a beautiful voice and a gift of music and that was his role. That was why he was created to be an angel that was beautiful that glorified God with music. It says in verse 14 thou art the anointed chair of that covers. Where do you see an anointed chair of a special sheriff that covers? You see that in the holy place of the sanctuary and we know that there is a sanctuary in heaven. You see that in Hebrews chapter eight, verses one and two, as well as in the Old Testament in Exodus 15 and 17, it’s very clear, the Bible says that God created a sanctuary in heaven. And so this anointed chair of this angel was a covering cheap. There are only two angels that do this special work of covering the shakya glory in the the most holy place in God’s sanctuary in his temple. And so that was the role of Lucifer. He was to be a very special and glorious and beautiful and angel that would glorify God, that’s what God created was a good angel.
Speaker 2
However, as you keep reading in Ezekiel 2014, it says that the anointed chair that covers I have set the ultimate that was upon the holy mountain of God that walked up and down the midst of the stones of fire. In verse 15, pinpoints what happened. Thou was perfect in your ways from the day you were created till iniquity was found in you. So he was perfect. God made a beautiful, perfect heavenly angel, but sin crept into his heart. And it says in verse 16, by the multitude of your merchandise you have filled the midst of you with a violence. You have sinned, therefore I will cast you out as profane out of the mountain of God. I will destroy you a covering chair from the midst of the stones of fire. And verse 17 kind of gives you again more detail. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty. You have corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness. I will cast you to the ground, I will lay you before kings that they may behold you. So basically God made a beautiful glorious angel which if you look in the book of Isaiah chapter 14, you see this again a very similar story of basically the origin of the devil that he was.
Speaker 2
In Isaiah 14, verse twelve, it says, how do you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning, how you were cut down to the ground which did weaken the nations. And in verse 13 it says for you have said in your heart I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit upon the mountain of the congregation in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most high. So basically you see pride in the heart of Lucifer, this angel who is made beautiful and glorious and made to glorify God. But yet God gave him the ability to choose and the ability to reason. And so the devil decided to glorify himself because he knew he was very beautiful and was very talented. And so basically that’s the origin of the devil, not that God made this nasty thing, that was the purpose of it was to tempt people and do bad things, but rather the purpose of creating Lucifer was to be a glorious angel to glorify God. Now he made a choice to worship himself and to choose pride.
Speaker 2
And yes, he’s basically led against the army of God ever since you read about this in Revelation chapter twelve of Jesus being Michael the archangel contending with the devil. And it says that I’ll summarize but basically that he took a third of the stars of heaven with him, with his tale, the tale meaning lies. You see that in the book of Isaiah. And stars meaning angels. So yes, the devil tempted the angels and he took a third of them with him. And it says that he was cast down to the earth because that we are basically the only planet where we’ve given into the deception of the devil. And basically because Adam and Eve chose to sin our first parents, we are now left with this choice of are we going to worship God or are we going to worship the Devil, which is basically his way, which is selfishness. And so it’s not that God wants you to have temptation and have suffering and have all these bad things, but rather it’s if God destroyed Lucifer as soon as he sinned or quarantined him and didn’t basically play fair and allow him to offer his opinion, then God wouldn’t be fair.
Speaker 2
And God is a fair and it’s just God. And so what you have here is a great controversy between Christ and his angels and the devil and his angels. Christ in his method, in his way, and his government and the government of the devil. And so God is basically saying, choose, you make a choice. I am going to allow you to choose which side you want to be on and I’m going to do everything in my power to save you. But, yes, there’s a devil who’s going to do everything in his power to have you lost. And because God is a fair and adjust God, we have to ride out this wave. It’s not forever, it will come to an end. Thank God the Devil has been a short time before him and his angels are destroyed and this world is no more. But God cannot be a fair guy and just say, oh, I never gave you the chance to hear his side of the story and I just wiped him out. And just trust me, you’d rather not know. It’s kind of you would question God’s truth, would you question him? And so God didn’t want that break in our relationship.
Speaker 2
He didn’t want us to just fear him or just be robots who didn’t have the ability to choose. God gave us the ability of choice. And so I believe that’s basically why the Devil is allowed to do what he is allowed to do. But again, don’t forget, but for a short time, and God promises that there will be a new heaven and new Earth, the Devil and his angels will be no more and sin will never rise up again. But we’ll always have that memory of, yes, this is the consequence of sin. This is the consequence of rebellion against God and his government. And we can trust God that he is a fair and just God who will give us the freedom of choice. And only when there’s freedom is there true love. Because if we can’t choose, if we don’t even have the opportunity to choose, we really don’t love, because my dad always said love is freedom. So I hope that answers your question. Jerry, any other thoughts on that?
Speaker 3
Yeah, definitely. You covered all the main points and this is something that we talked about for days, right? It’s such a deep topic.
Speaker 2
I’m like I want to say so much more, but I’m trying to keep it concise as possible. But, yes, it’s a big question. And I appreciate this question. And if you want to look into more details, again, we have some really great answers on this topic [email protected] on our website. And, yes, be sure to study it out for yourself and keep asking questions and we really appreciate you. Our friend, Kyle.
Speaker 3
And just know, as Bible says in Romans 828, we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the calling according to his purpose. So it looks terrible. We might not be understanding why, but it’s for a better reason. And all this is building up to so that there never has to be seen again. What’s the verse? I forget that it will not come a second time.
Speaker 2
It will not rise again. It’s in the Old Testament and I can’t think of off the top of my head, but yeah, it will not rise again. I have to look that up exactly.
Speaker 3
Because basically God’s plan is let sin show itself to be as terrible as it is, so that everybody agrees God’s law is right, God is good, god is totally right. Satan was completely wrong. Sin cannot be tolerated in the smallest, tiniest amount. It’s sort of like a terrible pandemic, right? And you can’t allow a single person to have this infectious disease or else it will end up with the entire planet having it. And so it’s the same thing. So we got the verse. Okay.
Speaker 1
Once you conspire against the Lord, he will make an utter end of it. Affliction will not rise up a second time.
Speaker 3
Yeah, god’s kind of basically referred to even sin as an affliction, almost like this illness. God’s going to make sure this illness, this pandemic of sin, is going to be over for good and never will come back. But in order for that to work, we all have to understand how terrible it is and reject it and accept God’s ways. And those who choose not to accept God’s ways will be destroyed along with Satan. That’s the only way to do it.
Speaker 1
But I think it’s important to note there that God has grace, right?
Speaker 3
Well, I mean, that’s the whole point. This is God’s ultimate grace. God is suffering along with us. And so patient.
Speaker 1
The key here is to reject them in our own life and to change from that. It’s not that we are to reject those that are sitting or reject other people. What we’re getting at here is that God wants us to reject the sin in our life, not reject ourselves, but reject the sin that’s in our lives so that we change from that and follow his ways. And that’s the key.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, Peter has got his long suffering so that none will be lost. God is letting things drag out so as many people could be saved as possible. So we’re getting yes, it would be nice for Jesus, come today and just take us away. But that means that some people might not have had the opportunity to really learn about Jesus, why they really need him.
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