When did Satan fall before creation or after?

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So Edwin is asking when did Satan fall before creation or after? It’s a great question. I’m also very much a fan of like when did all these things behind the scenes happened? So our first clue is going to be John 844, John 844. And it reads, this is Jesus speaking.

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I’m reading from the NIV by the way because I like the word it just a little bit better. It says, you belong to your father, the devil and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth. For there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language for he is a liar and the father of all lies.

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So all lies, any lie that ever came came from him. And where do we see the first lie being spoken? That’s Genesis three, when the serpent is tempting Eve and saying things like, well God didn’t say that and you’re not going to die, you’ll live forever and ever. All these are the lives of Satan. He originated these, he’s the father of these.

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And we even have confirmation of this in Revelation. Revelation twelve nine says, so the great Dragon was cast out, that serpent of old. What’s the only old serpent we’ve ever heard of that’s one, Genesis. And it says called the Devil and Satan who deceived the whole world. He was cast to the Earth and his Angels were cast out with him.

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So there again is confirmation that serpent in the beginning with Satan. So if Satan was there already trying to tempt Eve and bring Eve into evil, we can know for certainty then that he fell before Adam and Eve did. He was the one who bringing them into it. And then if you want even more background on Satan’s fall or some people not sure if this really speaking about Satan, I believe it is. This is Ezekiel 28 versus twelve to 15 is referring to the King of Tyre.

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And God says to this person, you were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God. And then it goes on to say, you were the anointed chair of who covers. I established you. So he was closest to God.

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And it says, you walked back and forth in the midst of the fire stones. This is all talking about where God dwells in Zion. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created till inequity found in you. So that right there is describing the fall of Satan itself.

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