What is the Biblical argument against limited atonement?

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A deep question.

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Okay, so Anya is asking what is the biblical argument against limited atonement?

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Ayana oh, all right. Ayana I love this question in honestly, I had to look up what limited towment means. I had heard of it before, but my term doesn’t use that term a lot. But it appears to come from Calvinism, and it might be others outside of the Calvinists who use it. And it sort of refers to this idea that Jesus bore the sins of only the elect, those chosen for salvation, and that he didn’t die and buried the sins of anybody and everybody. And so other words for this are particular redemption or definite atonement. Just words, right? Describe this concept. So we were talking about earlier, did price die for everybody on the cross or just for a few people? That’s ultimately what is getting it. And then this is one of actually the five core pillars of Calvinism. So let’s look at some verses that I think might suggest otherwise. There’s a lot of verses that use the words elect, chosen, all that. It’s understandable where this would come from. Again, we need to look at the Bible in its entirety. All verses need to come together in a consistent hold. As Jesus says, scripture cannot be broken.

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So let’s look at Hebrews 29. It says but we do see him who was made for a little lower than the angels, namely Jesus, because of the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honors, so that by grace of God he might taste death for everyone. I don’t know how this could be more clear. It says he tasted death for everyone. Second, Peter 39. We looked at this earlier today. He says, The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slagness, but as long as suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Two verses, one to two, John, two versus one to two. John writes My little children, these things are writing to you that you not sin. And if any man sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And it goes on to say that and he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the world, whole world. If you look at Revelation 22, verse 17, jesus says, My little children, sorry. Jesus says, and the Spirit and the bride say, come and let him who hears say, come and let him who thirsts come.

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Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. Again, whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. Jesus says revelation 320 behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into him and dine with them, and he with me. To him who overcomes, I will grant to sit with me on my throne. And I also overcame and sit down with the throne, sit down with my Father on him. Okay? But basically this is sort of like what Jesus also says in Matthew 20 413, but he who endorsed to the end shall be saved. It’s not talking about just a group of people. God preach to death and necessarily will be saved. And Jesus died for on the cross that’s a few people, that is two. For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches to us to say no to ungodly, no to the worldly passion. Don’t need the rest. Part one, Timothy two, one to eight. First of all, then, I urge the entreaties and prayers, petitions of thanksgiving be made on behalf of all men.

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Let’s jump to verse four. Sorry. Verse three says, this is going to acceptable in the sight of God or Savior. Verse four, who desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. Verse five. For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, the man Jesus Christ. Verse six, who gave Himself as a ransom for all. So with all these verses, and there’s many more, I have just as many verses I could keep going through it’s showing God wanted everybody to be saved, who wants none to be lost. And Jesus died on the cross, carried all of our sins with Him. Everything we’ve done, everything we experience, our shame, our guilt, the effects of what we did on others, jesus took that all with them on the cross, so that any of us, if we choose, can go to heaven. Christ shows all of us. It’s like there’s a draft. We just had the Super Bowl, there’s like there’s a draft. We’re in drafting time and Jesus wants to draft all of us, and we’re all free agents and we start off on Satan’s team, and it’s now open draft season, and Jesus saying, I choose you, please join my team.

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Everybody who wants to come to my team, please join my team.

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I’ve chosen you can please come on my team. But it’s up to us to decide whether or not we go. And yeah, Jesus is certain conditions. I want you to be on my team, but to be on my team, you need to love me and you need to love everybody else. You need to be righteous. And to be righteous, you need to take on my righteousness, and that I will give you, but you have to be willing to take it. So those conditions are there. But if we basically want to be on his team, accept his gift to be on his team and agree to those conditions, we’re on his team because he chose us. It’s not so much that we chose them, he chose us and it’s for us to accept it. So I hope that’s helpful. Thank you for asking. Ayana and I think that’s our last question of the day.

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Yeah, again, thank you everybody for all your awesome questions and great comments you’ve got tonight. To you, I think it always ends up going back to a lot of our questions. Go back to the simple things like John 316 for God so love the world that whosoever believes it should not perish but have everlasting life. I think it’s awesome and I appreciate all your very in depth versus in studies tonight.

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