What Christian denomination publicly rejects the false Augustinian doctrine of eternal hell?

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Speaker 1

So Jeff is asking what Christian denominations publicly reject the false augustinian doctrine of eternal Hell? So Jeff, it appears to me that you don’t agree with the augustinian doctrine of eternal Hell. And I have to say I agree that the idea of Hell being an eternal place of burning, I know there’s a lot of debate on this, but I would agree with you that it’s not a biblical doctrine because like Jay had already gone over the wages of sin. Isn’t eternal life in hell? The wages of sin is death. And the Bible says in Revelation 21 that those who are cast into the lake of fire, those who are lost, experience the second death. They die, they are no more. They are burned up, they are consumed, they consume away. There’s so many verses like Jay just went over a little bit ago of how they shall be ash under the soles of your feet. They shall consume, they shall consume away. They will burn up, they will be destroyed. So, yeah, I must agree that the Bible does not support this doctrine of eternal Hell. As far as an eternal place of torment and burning, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1

Now, as far as what Christian denominations uphold or reject that doctrine of eternal Hell, there’s actually a few as well as just some ideologies out there, the Church of Christian Science. So I’ll just lift them to you really quick. So the Church of Christian Science actually doesn’t believe in Hell as far as it defines Hell differently than what other people do. They believe Hell is more like a state of remorse. It’s more like the result of sin. So like remorse and sin or sickness or some. So they don’t hold the same view of Hell, but it’s different than maybe what you might hold. I don’t know if this is your view or not. The Jehovah’s Witness. Church also doesn’t believe in the idea of hell. As far as they believe, it’s Hell being the word shiol, which means grave. So it’s just a common grave for people. And that as far as Hell being what’s mentioned in the New Testament, you can get hen as eternal destruction or the second death. For those who are destroyed at Armageddon. Basically they have no people who are just they believe that in the battle of Armageddon, the wicked are destroyed and they have no opportunity to be resurrected.

Speaker 1

There’s also a group which is the Christa delphian view, which is very similar, except that they believe that the resurrected will be judged for how they lived before their lives before the Resurrection. Latter Day Saints have kind of a different view on Hell, but they do believe in eternal judgment, but they aren’t, from what I remember reading, basically, they don’t want to know what that is. Let’s just not experience whatever that eternal judgment is. But they believe that because God is eternal, his judgment is eternal. So they have a different view on hell than what is common as far as believing it is a state of eternal burning and torment. The Unity Church also rejects the idea of an eternal burning hell. And the 7th Day Adventist Church also believes in the concept that an eternal suffering is incompatible with God’s character of love and he would not torture his children in such a way. And the 7th Day Avenues Church actually has a term that many people use, which is called annihilationism, which is basically that the wicked are annihilated, they are burnt up, consumed, destroyed, as it says in the Book of Revelation, chapter 21, that they experienced the second death.

Speaker 1

So they also hold that it’s not an eternal place. And there’s many verses that support this basically because some people say, well, there’s something called the smoke of the torment shall ascend forever and ever. But just as it says in Jude, chapter one, verse seven, basically that in a similar way, sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave up themselves to sexual immorality and perversion and they serve an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. So basically that’s kind of where they get their idea from, which is that the unquenchable fire of God basically is unquenchable and that it burns you up forever and you never have the opportunity to be resurrected. And then there’s also another theory out there which I don’t believe is biblical, but it is an idea that rejects eternal hell, which is Christian universalism, which is basically the idea that, yes, some people might suffer in hell. For a while, but eventually, all people will be returned to God and restored to God and basically everybody will go to heaven one day. And I don’t believe that is a biblical concept though. So there are many churches and denominations that have different views about hell and not every church believes in an eternal state of burning, which I think is good.

Speaker 1

However, even within that you have to really go back to what does the Bible say and prayerfully study it into what you believe that to be true as far as what happens when you die and what happens at the judgment. So my prayer for you is you continue to study your Bible and figure out and decide for yourself what church do I want to attend? What church do I believe holds the biblical doctrine of what happens as far as the punishment of the wicked? Because I think that that has turned off so many people to Christianity in that God is to be feared a God. Why would God for somebody who only lived 70 years of sin? Why would they be punished for all ages of eternity? That doesn’t seem like a fair and just God. And I would agree that I think that does go against what the Bible shows us in many, many instances. As far as God saying John 316 for God, so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever would believe in him would not perish. So the result of not believing in God, of being lost, is to perish, to be done away with, to be gone, but have everlasting life.

Speaker 1

So it’s either perishing or everlasting life. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So again, I would agree with that biblical model and prayerfully. Consider where you would have God to lead you as far as your church. Jay. Wendy. Anything else?

Speaker 2

That was a beautiful explanation.

Speaker 1

Praise God.

Speaker 2

It’s good you’re always on a roll, but it’s like super roll today. I’m like, I don’t have anything to contribute.

Speaker 1

I don’t know about that. Trust me, if I said anything good, it is not me, it is Jesus. So I praise God for that because I always pray, lord, I don’t want to say my own thoughts. I don’t want to say my words. I just want to say what God has put in us. And I do believe that God does grant us that. Now I know we’re over.

Speaker 2

I should add, I guess, just one clarification, that there probably are other denominations that are really related. I think the world Church of God, something like that, for example, might have similar viewpoints on hell as other churches that came from the Avidist Church or things like Church of Christ. Oh, you mentioned them. Okay, so good recovery.

Speaker 1

Okay, sorry. Now, I was looking it up on Google, like, what does the Church of God?

Speaker 2

And unfortunately there’s so many different types of Church of God, so it’s hard to be precise, but.

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