How did Lucifer have pride before sin?

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Speaker 1

Christina is asking if pride is a sin, how could it have been part of lucifer’s nature getting him to fall from heaven?

Speaker 2

Cool. And I’ll just you could be right. The way I see pride though is pride in of itself is not the sin, but more like a symptom of sin. Or if it is really entertained indulge, then maybe that becomes the sin which I do believe satan did. And we can take a look at ezekiel 20 814 starting there. And let me switch to nkjv.

Speaker 3

And it says, I was trying to point to you because I was trying to say I think you should answer this.

Speaker 2

So ezekiel 28 porte says, you were the anointed cherub who covers or the covering cheriib. I god established you. You were on the holy mountain of God. You walked back and forth in the midst of the firestones. So here God described as satan and he was as close to God as anybody could get and he was a covering cherub. We understand that to be the highest position an angel could have, again in terms of proximity, even closest to God. And then the next verse, verse 15, it says, you were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created. Ill iniquity was found in you. So God made him perfect. And then one day now there was iniquity in him. And I think in this context God is telling us he was in such a high and locked position, he had so much going for him that yeah, I think it’s suggesting there that pride eventually got in the way of satan. If we switch over now to isaiah, chapter 14, isaiah, let’s say 14, starting at verse twelve, it says, let me also switch over to Nkjp. I’m used to these verses in the King James.

Speaker 2

So it says, how fallen from heaven, olucifer son of the morning, how you are cut down to the ground, you are weakened the nations. For you have said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of the congregation on the farther sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most high. All this more or less suggesting I’m going to be bigger, better, more powerful than God. I can’t describe this any other way than the most ridiculous pride there ever is and ever will be. I guess. Our own enconilation is isaiah 1415, next verse. Yet you shall be brought down to Shiol, to the lowest depths of the pit. God someday will bring it into satan, will kill him, destroy him, and there’ll be no more rebellion. But yeah, pride is truly, I say, at the heart of the fall of satan. And what continues to perpetuate his rebellion against God just because he wanted to be God.

Speaker 1

Did you have anything else to add to that one.

Speaker 3

Tina I totally agree. I think that’s definitely spot on. And I think when it comes to you’re flat out saying, my sister, that pride is a sin, and it is. And it’s kind of weird to think, like, lucifer lived in the presence of a holy God and he was perfect. He didn’t have any sin. So how did sin come out of perfection or a lack of sin? And I think the thing that we have to remember is it started in the mind and in the heart, and he allowed himself to start thinking things that maybe he started to focus on self instead of focusing on God. And I think that that’s such an important thing that we have to keep in mind as God’s people, that the closer we get to God, that we don’t start thinking like, oh, well, look how great I am, or Holy I am, or Is there anything special or whatever about myself. But rather, we have to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus and his goodness and his mercy and love. And I think that’s the best cure for any pride that we have, because then we remember, oh, yeah, I am completely dependent on God for my life, for every breath I take, for everything I have.

Speaker 3

And so that would be my only two cent thinking about that, as far as basically being careful not to fall down that same path. Because I think it’s very easy to do that in some way. Maybe not exactly the way the devil did, but the devil tempts us in different ways to think that we’re something when we’re really nothing. There’s no good thing in us. Anything good in us is from God.

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