“Jesus kept the Mosaic laws after his resurrection.” Change my mind on this.

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Speaker 3:

Return to Torah has asked, Jesus kept the Mosaic laws after his resurrection. Change my mind.

Speaker 1:

That’s interesting. It is interesting. Interesting question, question. And I am excited to dig into this one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go for it, Jay.

Speaker 1:

So there’s generally, let’s say, two extreme positions people take, and one is on the one hand, the law of Moses still applies today, 100%, as it was always will be. That’s one side, the other side is there’s no more law, period. It’s all gone. Got completely obliterated on the cross. So those are two extreme positions that say they Mark the two polar opposites. What does the Bible say, though? And the way the question worded. Yeah, there’s not going to be a ton of evidence. Specifically, did Jesus keep or break the laws of Moses after resurrection? We’re given very little. He came, he ate fish and bread. He hung up with the people for 40 days, and then he took off. So there’s not much there. But we do have some more insights also into even what is Jesus doing today. And we can look at how that informs us about the law of Moses. Now, I, per se, believe also that the Bible, the Bible did a wondrous thing or shows us a wondrous thing happened on the cross. And it wasn’t that the law got completely obliterated. It’s gone and it doesn’t show. As it said, there was this huge special change that went on and the law did something miraculous and got even better.

Speaker 1:

I would say it got even more exalted, more amazing. And let’s look at first verse, Isaiah 42 21. Wendy, would you like to read it? Sure.

Speaker 3:

It says, the Lord is well pleased for his righteousness sake. He will exalt the law and make it honorable.

Speaker 1:

I believe this verse here is prophesying what happened on the cross and even is still in process today of God showing how amazing his law is and how it got better after the cross. Now, what we need to remind or understand, what was the purpose of the laws of Moses? Why did God give them where they knew and just coming out of the blue or the expansion of something? If you go back, you look, we had sacrifices even at the time of Abraham. And before that, we had some health laws. We had clean and unclean animals, even at the time of Noah. But what we didn’t have was this huge, huge system in place that came about under Moses. So all these laws, laws. But was it just God want to give laws for law’s sake, or was there a greater purpose behind them? And let’s dig into that, and we get a clue from that, from Jesus himself in Matthew 517. And he says, do not think that I came to destroy the law of the law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy, but to what? Fulfill to fulfill them. Right.

Speaker 1:

So what does that fulfill mean, right? Does it mean he’s going to just keep them following or does he mean even something greater? That almost like a prophecy where these showing us that they come and he was going to be the fulfillment of what they’re pointing to? Well, we don’t have to guess because Romans ten four gives us the answer. And would you like to read that.

Speaker 3:

Wendy, for Christ is the end, goal or objective of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And actually when he noticed they were tripped up a little bit because I had some notes there right at the word end. So it says, for Christ is the end of the law. And a lot of people like to quote this verse and say, see, Christ ended the law in being on the cross. But that word end is more like you’ve reached the end of the road because you’ve arrived at your destination. It’s the goal, the objective, the whole point of the law was Christ. It is pointing us to him, those sacrifices representing Jesus, the water at the labor representing Christ’s, cleansing us. The prayers of Christ is represented at the altar, burnt sacrifice, the bread. Jesus says, my flesh is the bread. You go down the list. This is all about Christ and us, how we interact with Christ. We come to Colossians, two verses 16 to 17. It says, so let no one judge you in food or drink or regarding festival or a new moon or Sabbath. What do all these things have in common? This is pointing to the Mosaic law. It says, which are a shadow of things that come, but the substance is of Christ.

Speaker 1:

So again, Paul said these things are pointing us to Jesus. That’s the point of these things. So if Jesus comes and fulfills this, then it’s not like the law has been done away with. It’s almost like we’ve got something better. We have now progressed to the next level because now we can understand better because Jesus came. He was in real life. People wrote and testify what he did. We can understand better now what these things and symbols are trying to tell us. But let’s go one step further now and actually show a specific example in the Bible of how Jesus post resurrection actually did work a change and is not keeping the law of Moses. Let’s turn now to Hebrews chapter seven. I’m going to read a long passage here, but I think almost every bit of it is really on point. We’re going to start at verse nine. So Hebrews seven, verse nine. It says, even Levi, who receives ties, paid ties through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met Abraham. Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood, for under it that people received the law, what further need was there that another priest shall come, should rise according to the order of Melchizedek.

Speaker 1:

And not be called according to the order of Aaron, for the priesthood being changed of necessity, there is also a change of the law, not no more law, but there’s a change in the law. As I said, I think it was more of an upgrade, for he of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe. This was referring to Jesus, for which no man has officiated at the altar. Nobody of the tribe of Judah was a priest officiating at the altar. It’s saying here, for it is evident that our Lord Jesus arose from Judah, of which the tribe of Moses spoke nothing concerning the priesthood. And yet it is far more evident if in the likeness of Melchizedek, there rises another priest, there’s another priest of the order of Melchizedek is who has come not according to the law of fleshly commandment. I think that’s referring to the Mosaic law, but according to the power of an endless life. For he testifies God testifies. You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek. Or on the one hand, there is an annoying of the former commandment because of its weakness and profitableness, for the law made nothing perfect.

Speaker 1:

On the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope through which we draw near to God. And inasmuch as he was not made priests without an oath, for they have become priests without an oath. But he was made and he was with an oath. Sorry, but he with an oath by him who said Him the Lord has sworn and will not relent. You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek. But by so much more, Jesus has become a surety of a better Covenant, a better Covenant. Do you see all this language is about an upgrade. We’re getting better. There’s no more law, there’s a better law, better system, better Covenant. Also, there were many priests because they were prevented by death from continuing. So in the Mosaic law, the priests were human and they would always die. Right? So you kept needing a new priest. And Paul continues, but he because he continues forever. Christ has an unchangeable priesthood. Therefore, he is also able to save to the utmost those who come to God through Him, because he always lives to make intercession for them. For such a high priest was fitting for us who is Holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than heavens, who does not need daily as those high priests to offer up sacrifices first for his own sins and then for the people.

Speaker 1:

For this he did once for all when he offered up himself. So think about, yeah, the other priests were human, they were sinners. They constantly had to offer sacrifices for themselves. Here’s Jesus perfect, flawless God, always living. We don’t need all those other rules and things in place that were under the Mosaic system. And then we end here with for the law points as high priests, men who have weakness. But the word of the oath, which came after the law and this came after Christ’s resurrection, appoints the son who has been perfected forever. So there you go. Christ is acting as high priest now for this new system that was instituted after his resurrection. That old priesthood is gone. It’s gone. But now we have a better substitute. This is what the Bible teaches. And so go back to Jeremiah. Right. And it says, it’s not that God has abolished the law, but the new Covenant is that the law will be written on our heart. This is how God works. This is what the New Testament is all about. It’s about a better system, a better way in which the law was exalted, it’s magnified, it’s glorified more than ever before.

Speaker 1:

Right. What’s your thought?

Speaker 2:

Amen, I think that’s a really cool passage that you shared there in Hebrews. I think that makes a really good point. You know what I think about the law of Moses? It’s always a bit of a tricky subject because I do think that there are some things that were like you’re saying, like there’s dietary things that were in place before the law was given, like we see in Genesis, chapter six and seven with Noah. But when I look at the law of Moses, I always have to go back to it in Deuteronomy, chapter 31. And I’ll just say this really quick. Deuteronomy, chapter 31, verses 24 to 26, it says, and it came to pass when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law, talking about Mosaic law in a book until they were finished, that Moses commanded the lead Knights, which bears the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord, saying, Take this book of the law, the law of Moses, and put it on the side of the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for witness against you. So the law of Moses was something against you.

Speaker 2:

And if you keep reading in the chapter, he’s like, I wrote this because I knew you were going to be rebellious, and I just had to lay it out how rebellious you were, because when you read in Romans eight, the law is there to tell us what we’re doing wrong. That’s the purpose of the law in Romans chapter seven as well. And so when we see this law that’s against us, we see this very clear in Colossians two, verse 14, blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, again, that same wording. So, I mean, we see that God did blot out the handwriting of Moses, not the writing of his finger, the handwriting of Moses, which was against you, which is contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. So I see how the law of Moses was done away with. Now, does that mean every aspect of the law of Moses is totally garbage. We don’t have to think about it ever again. No, there are some still things to be learned from it obviously, just like the dietary things we saw in Genesis that remained in the law of Moses.

Speaker 2:

There’s sexual sins that Moses clearly said, this is not a good idea. Like bestiality, that’s still not okay, you know what I mean? So there’s still a lot of truth in the law of Moses and something that’s really interesting, I was reading in the Book of Acts a few weeks ago in my devotions, and I kept reading something that the Apostles kept saying, which kind of, I think shows the balance of just using wisdom when it comes to what you should and shouldn’t do. Obviously the Ten Commandments are written in stone by God’s finger. You can’t touch that. But when it comes to what’s right and wrong on a day to day basis, I think that was the purpose of the law of Moses. And so I’m sorry, my camera is doing funny things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I kind of like how it froze.

Speaker 2:

Sorry about that. So the last thing I just want to show you really quick, there’s three mentions of this actually in the Book of Acts, but this one is pretty clear in Acts, chapter 15, verses 20 and 29. And it said, for it seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things, because this is when the Jews are trying to say, oh, these Gentiles need to get circumcised if they want to be Jews. And they were saying, no, they don’t need to be circumcised according to the law of Moses. No, they don’t. And so in Acts 15, it says, it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, which is God, and to us, the Apostles, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things that you abstain from meats offered to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication, for which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well, fair you well. So they made it really simple. Like, hey, you don’t need to keep all the law of Moses, but there are some things that are just a good idea, like don’t eat things sacrificed to idols because we don’t want to have any part of idol worship, we don’t want to eat blood as part of the dietary practice.

Speaker 2:

It’s not healthy for you. It’s not a good idea to eat strangled animals and don’t practice fornication the law. Moses made all sorts made it very clear what fornication could be including, like, bestiality or just sleeping with relatives or just bad things, all sorts of things.

Speaker 1:

Or there was good things too, of like, put like the example of put a barrier on the roof of your house so that someone’s up there, they don’t trip and fall and get hurt. We have safety codes today? Pretty much like nowadays if anybody goes to work on your roof, they have to anchor themselves into the roof to walk around and wear a harness. It’s accomplishing the same exact thing as the Bible required thousands of years ago. It’s amazing.

Speaker 2:

Amen. And I think it’s cool too. Like in the Bible in the Lobos, it said don’t intermingle seeds like different plants together. And because you get sliced, genetic modification of food, I don’t think and we’ve shown that that’s not healthy. There’s like a huge non GMO project going on at this point in time, just showing that it’s healthier to keep your plants pure. And so I think there was a lot of wisdom that we don’t even know about way back know about because he made this Earth. So yeah, I think there’s good things to just take out of the law of Moses, but understand that we’re not under that law anymore. That was nailed to the cross. The only law we need to have is the law of God, which are his ten Commandments. But they are written on our hearts.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. But yeah, we go back and ask, why did God have these laws? What was the reason for them? And are we really smart to say these don’t apply to us today? Like across the board? We don’t need to follow any of them. Again, there’s a provision in there too. If you got mold growing on the walls of your house, do something about it. And if you got moldy clothes, do something about it, Maybe you have to even burn it and destroy it. I mean, take how much we destroy our house. If you got mold on it, we’ll rip the walls down and pick out the wood and replace everything Because that mold is dangerous and how ill people get if they don’t do that exact mold going.

Speaker 3:

I mean, in our interview stuff that we’ve done, like, we interviewed people who were seriously incapacitated over years of living in a house with mold problems. So it’s not a good thing for our health.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, you could be smart and say, well, I don’t get to heaven by making sure I have no mold in my house. But you’re going to make yourself sick. And you can say, well, I don’t go to heaven just by avoiding pork. But again, is that going to be good for your health? Eating it. So we really need to be smarter. God’s calling us to always go up to the next level, to be better, to be happier, to be healthier, enjoy life abundantly. That’s what we’re called to.

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