Is your belief one of post tribulation rapture?

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We’re just, like, cranking through them here.

Patrick asks the chronological events of the 1000 years. This teaching indicates the hailstorm and earthquake that precedes the second. Right. This event follows the seven vials being poured out upon the Earth, all of which I agree with. But since the point of the dead believers being raised up follows the second coming, and because there is no mention of the Rapture is your belief one of post tribulation Rapture asking because I can’t quite tell by the teaching that being the case. I disagree. But I also would not argue the case.

I have nothing to bring into that discussion that has not been brought in a million times.

Okay, well, I think that, Patrick, that’s a really interesting point you make there. I’m kind of wondering the question, are you basically asking, do we believe in a post tribulation Rapture is kind of what I’m getting from your statement. And what I would say is, in essence, yes, I do believe that God’s people will live through the time of trouble. I think you see that multiple areas of the Bible not only in Daniel relation, but other places like even the Book of Psalms, Psalms, chapter 91 is to me a prophetic.

The Book of Psalms has so many prophecies that you see about the Messiah, but also about the end of time. And Psalm 91 basically says 1000 shall fall on thy side, 10,000 of the right hand, but it shall not come to thee. So talking about God’s people going through the tribulation and basically making it through. And you see that again in the Book of Revelation, talking about the $144,000 this special group of God’s people at the end of time that they will go through this time of trouble.

Like Daniel chapter twelve says a time of trouble shall be such as never has been nor ever will be again at that point. Actually, let’s go there. I think that’s probably the most clear place in the Bible to see this. Daniel chapter twelve, verses one and two, and let me just go ahead and bring that up there. And so Daniel, chapter twelve, this is after that prophecy huge prophecy we just mentioned in Daniel Levin going through time, seeing that the King of the North King the south basically to the end of time, until this terrible King of the north is destroyed.

It says in Daniel twelve verse one, it says, at that time Shall Michael stand up the great Prince, which I believe is Jesus, which stands for the children of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was even a nation to the same time. And at that time thy people shall be delivered. Everyone that shall be written in the book, I get choked up. I’m sorry. I just want to be one of God’s faithful people. So basically talking about these God’s people being delivered at the end of time if their names are written in the book, and we know from the book of Revelation, it talks about those books being opened at the time of judgment at the end of the world, and only those whose names are written in the book of life shall be able to enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

And then if you read on into verse two, it says, and many of them that sleep in the dust of the Earth shall awake some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt. So basically, it’s not until after this time that Jesus comes in. The dead in Christ are risen here, as well as a special group of people who are going to like it says later in the Bible that those who Pierce Christ will see him coming. And so this is also an indicator of the special resurrection of those who Pierce Christ.

They’re going to see it because basically they need to know who they Pierce. They need to know that they Pearce the Son of God. And it’s just a special part of Jesus second Coming. And so basically, you see here very clearly that the gods people go through the tribulation, and after that that’s when Jesus comes and he says that the dead in Christ rise as we see here. And we know that for sure the dead in Christ rise at dies. Ii coming from Thessalonians chapter four.

I believe if you start in 13, basically, this is where Paul is saying, don’t be ignorant of what happens after you die, because there were some people saying, oh, there’s no resurrection when you die, that’s it, there’s no heaven, there’s no resurrection. But Paul said, no, there is definitely a heaven. And it says in verse 14, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, them also sleep in Jesus, will God bring with him? And verse 15 says, for this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive.

So Jesus people who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep, for the Lord himself shall descend with heaven with a shout. So this is Jesus second coming. He’s going to come with a shout, and with the voice of the Ark Angel, because he is the leader of the Angels, and with the Trump of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first, and then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

So shall we ever be with the Lord. And so it’s very clear to me just from these two passages that definitely God’s people live through the time of Tribulation. Some people call it the time of Jacob’s trouble. There’s different references to this terrible time that happens in Earth history just before Jesus comes. But it says in Revelation it’s talking about the seven vials that they’re only going to hurt those whose names are not written in the book of life, but those who are written in the Book of life, those who are right with God who say faithful to Him, God is going to protect them.

And you don’t have to be afraid. Yes, there will be martyrs before Jesus comes, but they are going to have a very special resurrection for them. They’re going to be part of the first resurrection, where they go to heaven, and they’ll have a special Crown of life waiting for them. And so whatever our fate is, whether we die before Jesus comes or whether we live and see that glorious day, just make sure you’re right with God. That’s my only prayer for you, my friend Patrick. Any other thoughts on that gear, Wendy?

Yeah. And just one verse. And I think you nailed it. And just maybe do a quick recap. And so I think there’s a confusion there where you have the Millennium. And it looks like some people believe there’s a resurrection before it. But then it looks like there’s resurrection after it. What’s going on and just sort of recap. There’s two different types of resurrections. If you look at John 529, this is Jesus talking and says and shall come forth. They have done good and to the resurrection of life.

And they that have done evil and to the resurrection of damnation. There’s two different resurrections there. They happen at different times. So the resurrection of the goods are resurrected before the Millennium. And then what we see in Revelation 20, we’re seeing those who were resurrected before they’re reigning with Jesus. And then after that end of the Millennium, then you have the resurrection of the wicked who then will be destroyed after that.

Yeah. And I’m sorry for that. And I think just looking back at our friend’s question, I do believe there’s the tribulation. I think Jesus comes. I think that the dead in Christ rise. All of God’s people go to heaven. And there are none of God’s people on the Earth during the Millennium. I don’t believe that. I know that there’s a theory out there that there still got people on the Earth in the Millennium. No, that’s it. The devil is bound 1000 years. He’s down here with nobody alive in darkness until the thousand years are up.

And then, like I said.

Every Old Testament Prophet talks about this period where the Earth is desolate, like Isaiah, I think Jeremiah. And maybe Joel, I mean, just go down the list. They’re all trying to tell you. Hey, there’s just going to be a time where the Earth is going to be void. And it uses the same language as what happened to the Earth when it was being created, when the Spirit of Lord passes over the waters. And it says the Earth was void and without form, that doesn’t mean the Earth didn’t exist.

It was there. It just wasn’t shaped.

It was empty.

Yeah, it’s empty. And that’s how it’s going to be left during the Millennium. And if you look at the languages in Revelation, it’s in Greek, but it’s using the same terms or the Greek equivalent as to the language in Genesis, it’s trying to tell you God is going to make the Earth how it was before Greek creation. And then we end revelation with God recreating the Earth, and you see a new heaven and a new Earth for the former things that passed away.

 


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