God used Assyria to punish Israel. Then turned around to punish Assyria for harming Israel. Why?

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Speaker 1

The next question is why does God use a Syria to punish Israel when Israel has done things God’s unhappy with but then turn around and punish Assyria for being wicked to Israel?

Speaker 3

Oh, it’s God being inconsistent. It feels like the hop.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he’s being inconsistent. He’s punishing someone for doing what he told them to do. That’s what the question sounds like. Is that what’s going on here?

Speaker 2

I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. But did you want to answer first?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I got Bible verse lined up, too.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 3

Or is your short thought I always take a while.

Speaker 2

I’ll do a short thought, then my thought is just Isaiah 1012. And I don’t know if you’re going to quote this Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord has performed his whole work upon Mount Sion and on Jerusalem. So God knew it was going to happen because he been prophesying to these people for generations. Guys get it together or else Babylon is going to come and you guys are going to suffer consequences. And God was sending profit after profit after profit for generations before the Syrians did what they did to Israel anyways. And then the verse goes on to say, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the King of Assyria and the glory of his high looks. So it wasn’t like this King was so righteous and so Noble in all that he did. God just permitted him to do something. However, God’s not going to just if somebody’s doing something with stout heart and proud looks. The Bible says that pride goes before destruction. So because of his pride, because of the evil things he was doing. Yeah, he had to be humbled. But if you read in Daniel four, that was for his conversion, the pride of the King of Assyria, which was Nebuchadnezzar.

Speaker 2

It wasn’t that he was punished just to be punished because God is being mean, but rather it was to bring him into a right relationship with God. And at the end of Daniel four, he says, I extol and praise the God of heaven because he’s able to set up Kings and bring down Kings. And he had peace at the end of his life because he understood his place in the universe and in the world. And I believe that the long big picture, the Kingdom of Kanezar will be in the Kingdom because of that. So, yeah, sometimes we have to suffer a short period to bring about something good.

 

Speaker 3

So we have a great comment from Michael Gray that actually leads right into a point. I want to make sure go ahead and pull that comment up. Yeah, let’s put up Michael’s comment. So he says when Israel turned away from God’s protection, they were subjected to Satan’s wrath. And I think that’s also a very spot on point. And a verse I was going to bring up, for example, is Job 10. Job one, verse ten. And this is Satan in the presence of God. And he’s complaining because God said, oh, have you seen my sort of job? And Satan is like, well, of course he likes you because you’ve put a hedge around him about his house and all that he has on every side. So sad is complaining about this hedge, this protection that’s around Job. And this term hedge actually comes up again. For example, in Isaiah 55. And so in Isaiah, God talks about how he built a beautiful garden vineyard. He took such good care of it, protected it, we did it everything, fertilized it. And then verse 55, it says, but it didn’t bring about fruit. So he says, and now go to I’ll tell you what I will do to my vineyard.

Speaker 3

I will take away the hedge thereof. I’m going to take away the protection, and it will be eaten up and I will break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down basically, when his people are bringing good fruits, fruits of love aren’t abiding by God’s law of love. He says, I’m going to take away my protection and you’re going to then suffer the consequences of it. Why is God a mean guy? I think what you talked about earlier, Tina, right. God wants to educate us because so many of us only learn the hard way. We have to then experience. Why does God say, do this? Why does God say do that? Well, God says, okay, well, I’ll let you experience it. What happens when you don’t listen to me?

Yeah.

Speaker 1

We have a comment here from Landon that I think would be good to pull up. Can you bring that comment up?

Speaker 3

We’ll get there. Okay. I guess you’ll okay. I wasn’t done, but.

Speaker 1

All right, sorry. That tied into what you were saying.

Speaker 3

So we do have this concept that God’s wanted to protect us, but then he sort of punishes us, but he punishes us, but let us suffer the consequences of what we’re doing. So, yeah, in case of Israel, they were worshiping false gods. They did get very proud. So God lets them get beat down a bit by Assyria. But then what happens when Assyria came in and then defeats Israel? Were they nice about it? Did they just defeat Israel and then help rebuild them up? And we’re kind people and good. No, not at all. So if we look at Ezekiel 31, 3211, God actually talks directly about Assyria and following what you’re saying, Tina, he said that. Sorry. Verse three, behold, Assyria was a Cedar of Lebanon with beautiful branches and forest shade and very high, and its top was among the clouds. And it keeps going. Just talk about how serious it was. Like this gigantic tree that just stood out from the rest and this height and its size and all that is sort of talking about instance, its pride. Yeah. Syria have this far reach and encompassing many different civilizations. And as it’s getting bigger, it’s getting more proud.

Speaker 3

And so then we get down to verse ten. Yeah. It says, Therefore, it says the Lord God, because it is high in stature and set its tops among the clouds, and its heart is hottie in its loftiness. That’s not the same language with Nebuchadnezzar. Right. I think when he was humbled in Daniel Four, the guy says, Therefore, I will give it I will give Syria into the hands of the despot of the nations. He will thoroughly deal with it according to its wickedness. I have driven it away. So, yeah, again, God’s saying, I will give it into the hands of the desperate of nations. I’m going to let suffer the consequence of what’s going to be going to let someone else come in now and punish it. It wasn’t just hottie. It was also wicked. Very wicked. These countries were brutal. Was it a Syria where one of Syrian rulers where he was going to just, like ripping open pregnant women, pregnant women, I mean, just terrible practices, horrible things. So, again, if these people around today, I think we would have no problem if the US was dropping bonds on them.

Speaker 1

Not for that, but it’s kind of interesting, right. When you think about how kind of the way of the world today is that the rich and famous aren’t held accountable. Right. It’s often a double standard. It takes a long time before they can get away with a lot. But what we’re seeing here is like God’s saying, no, it doesn’t matter how beautiful and massive and just impressive you are. If you’re not consistent with his character, you’re going to face the consequences that come with not being consistent with his character, with being inconsistent with that.

Speaker 3

And that’s a good segue. Then to the comment we have from Landon, good job. So he says, we often emulate the thoughts and practices of evil or popular opinion. God will permit you to experience the whole experience of those you emulate. We must strive to emulate love. Exactly. Because God is love. His law is love. And that is the safest, truest path to happiness, prosperity, peace, everything so dead on. And, yeah, if we’re doing our best to walk in God’s path of love, God will fulfill his promise to keep a hedge around us.

Speaker 1

So we don’t have to be perfect yet. We don’t have to go from just like this one moment where we realize we did get prideful. We did have these issues. We’re going on the wrong path. We want to change. Like if we don’t change tomorrow.

Speaker 3

Yeah. No, it’s doing your best.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 3

Which also means you’re not doing it in your own strength. You have to rely on God to supply that love, to teach you, to work with you, to change you. What is that? First, a righteous man falls seven times or several. Seven times, but gets up. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Proverbs I think it’s 28. Let me double check. But yeah, a righteous man falls seven times but gets up again basically each time. Yeah, exactly. And just my thoughts too. It’s so easy to look at the story of what happened with Israel and Babylon or Syria that they came and destroyed Babylon came and destroyed Israel. And that was what God’s will was at that point, basically because Israel is so wicked and evil. But again, if you understand the state of Israel, like it says in Jeremiah, that was when they were worshipping Baal. That’s when God said this is my last straw.

Speaker 3

And not just bail molecule where they were throwing their children into the fire, they were doing the child sacrifice like the pagans.

Speaker 2

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3

And had all the Astral poles.

Speaker 2

Exactly. When you think about that and thinking about how long God warned them, if you go back to the book of Leviticus, I believe it’s chapter 16 where God says don’t start worshiping other gods because you’re going to end up losing everything. And God warned them from the time of Moses to not partake in these terrible practices of worshiping other gods. So from the time of Moses to the time of Babylon, that was like at least what, 1000 years? And Israel kept coming back and going forth and going back and going forth. And God, like you read in Nehemiah, it says in thy multiple manifold mercies, God would bring us back and in his manifold mercies God would Israel would repent, then God would not allow them to be punished. But it was only when there was no repentance. They said, you know what, we don’t care. They killed all God’s prophets. Hey, God said, I have to give you up to these consequences because they just wouldn’t learn. And I don’t think God was in any way vindictive or evil in doing that. I think just like a good parent, sometimes you have to let your kids suffer punishment.

Speaker 2

If your kid ends up robbing a bank, you can’t try to bail him out of jail. Like he has to suffer some consequences for his actions. And I think that was just the state of Israel and the state of Babylon.

Speaker 3

I like that comment from Michael that was just up about how God was just so patient with Israel. I feel like half the Bible is just God being patient with Israel.

Speaker 1

And we see it today too. There’s so much horrible stuff going on in this world today and everybody wants to see well, not everybody, but the rocks are crying out for change and people are wanting to see that change. But God is being patient right now, trying to get more people to turn because let’s be honest, even those of us that want to see change go on. We still make mistakes. We still find ourselves because of our career or because of our need to feed our family or because of the environment. We grew up in. We still are being purified. Our hearts are being purified. Our characters are being refined and improved upon and God is being immensely patient with everybody because what’s the verse about how he wants that not and she’ll perish, but that all shall be restored to him.

Speaker 3

What is that, John 3:16 and John 3:17?

Speaker 1

I don’t know if we’d have to pull it up, but there’s a couple of verses along those lines. They’re coming to mind.

Speaker 2

But they all should come to repentance that’s axe. I think that’s the words of Peter, if I’m not mistaken. But John 3:16 is obviously for God so loved the world that he gave his only son that none should perish for real.

Speaker 3

Yeah. And then the very next verse John 3:17 for God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world.

Speaker 2

But that the world through him might be saved.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly. Which that’s a good segue into our next question.

Speaker 2

I agree.

Speaker 1

Our next part of the the question.

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